That's it. Press J to jump to the feed. Bohemia, Hungary, Palatinate). In Emperor, the initial Shadow Kingdom event says that, unlike previously, you don't have to conquer territory to prevent the bad event from firing. Thanks for the tip. Ok so as the dev diary said there are three ways to rein in an Italian prince: having high relations with them, being allies with them, or defeating them in a war. This all went to ♥♥♥♥ shadow kingdom event, all italian states leave HRE, imperial authority only at 0.01 every month, all electors turn on me except one meaning i will lose emperor status on my monarch's death. You could for instance get an alliance with all countries, finish the mission and then break whatever alliances you don't want to keep. I'll probably just try to ally all of them right before the check happens in 1490 and maybe savescum some to try to figure out where it really is. You can do it by literally just going way over your diplo limit and allying all of them, if they'll all accept (rivalry issues may prevent that). Is there any way to check whether a state has been reined in or not? Apologies for the wall of text, didn't expect it to get this long. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I would need to run it again to confirm but I think this flag applies even if that prince is wiped out and then released again. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Played mp venice before and seems like italian states are keen to stay in - there is an imperial vote to abandon or shadow kingdom italy in 1460- even if everyone votes for "abdon italy", if you have +150 relations with everyone, they will stay, or even leave and rejoin. Does it say this anywhere in game? The failure of successive Emperors to restore Imperial authority in the region has also left large areas under the control of states that outright reject Imperial Authority.\nBy now the question for many Italian … they wont rejoin anymore that was changed in 1.30.2. This one can be challenging if you need diplomatic options for many princes and don't want to go over your relations limit because the prince's opinion must stay above 150 until you rein them in otherwise or pass the Shadow Kingdom decision. Second, does anyone have any strategy ideas? EU4 needs a better PO. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. I can't really find anywhere in the game that explains what to do to reign in italy. Can someone please explain? Nobody seems to be 100% certain though. Does it say this anywhere in game? Edit: So, as an update, around August of 1489, I (Austria) just allied and RMed everyone I could in Italy, which threw my diplo relations to like 13/6, but I got a decision to rein in Italy. Press J to jump to the feed. It says you can rein in the states by forming close relations or by winning a war against them, but I'm wondering just how close your relations have to be. The metrics for the decision seem to be for each prince: Has this prince lost in a war against the emperor, or, Is this prince's current opinion of the emperor above 150, or, Is this prince currently an ally of the emperor. Do you need to pass a certain relations threshold, or can it only be accomplished by forming an alliance? It says you can rein in the states by forming close relations or by winning a war against them, but I'm wondering just how close your relations have to be. I can't really find anywhere in the game that explains what to do to reign in italy.